How to ride a motorcycle with a pillion passenger - Hints and tips for two up riding

16 Rgs 2020
40 437 Peržiūros

How to ride a motorcycle with a pillion passenger - Hints and tips for two up riding: Riding a motorbike with a passenger can be great fun, but can also be daunting for the first time for both rider and pillion. In this video me and Mrs Flyer give our hints and tips for riding a motorbike 2 up....
My Patreon page
I buy my riding kit from Sportsbike shop,0,0
I recommend protecting your bike with a Monimoto tracker
and a Litelok Motorcycle lock - 10% off when you use this link
Get a £50 discount on the Guardsman Garage barrier (use “TMF50” for £50 discount!)
Exclusive TMF Merch on my website and of course Teespring (click the red spring top right).
Links to my channel sponsors:-
Bennetts Insurance
Toro Adventure
Canary Motorcycle Tours
Speedo Angels
Custom Fit Guards
Image4 Security
I'm now on that Twitter thing! Join me @MissendenFlyer
You can now follow me on Facebook too The Missenden Flyer@TheMissendenFlyer
and on Instagram @missendenflyer
Don't forget your TMF Discounts!:-
Litelok Motorcycle lock - 10% off when you use this link
Get a £50 discount on the Guardsman Garage barrier (use “TMF50” for £50 discount!)
Use the discount code "TMF" at for 10% off (+free delivery in the UK).
Use "FLYER10" for your discounts on ear protection with Custom Fit Guards at
Mention The Missenden Flyer when buying from or for discounts on Panigale heat shields or Ducati/Triumph throttle spacer kits. Use the code MISSENDEN to get the $10 discount on the heat shield, or heat shield/spacer kit bundle and MISSENDENSK for 10% off the spacer kit.
Use the code "missenden" to get 20% off orders at Speedo Angels
More discounts coming soon!
I use the following equipment to record and edit my VLOGs:-
GoPro HD Hero 4 helmet camera
GoPro HD Hero 7 Black camera
GoPro HD Hero 8 Black camera
GoPro Session (4) "B" Camera
DJI Mavic Air drone (fly more combo)
Nikon D7100 DSLR for static and video shots with various lenses
Lavalier microphone and sellotape for in helmet audio
BOYA BY-M1 3.5 mm Lavalier Microphone for in-garage pieces
Movo LV20 Dual Lavalier Clip-on Microphones for 2 person interviews
Power Director 12 for the PC (for video editing)
Radio mic for in garage audio
Rode VIDEOMICPRO On Camera Microphone for general use
Rode Deadcat VMPR Windshield to kill wind noise
Neewer CN 160 LED Dimmable Ultra High Power Panel Video Light
Goliton® Camera DSLR Triple Mount for LED Video Lights Microphones
A pair of Lantoo LED Floodlight 50W for additional lighting
My current motorcycles are:-
Honda CRF250L
Triumph Street Triple R
Ducati 899 Panigale
Triumph Speed Twin
Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor
For any additional enquiries please send a PM, e-mail me via, contact me via Twitter, Facebook or Instagram or preferably leave a comment below...

  • Made sure you are covered on your insurance to carry a pillion 👍😱

    Dave MartinDave MartinPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • @Colin Pettit true , but its a insurance requirement in UK

      OldFartUKOldFartUKPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • @Colin Pettit You do though, because it increases the risk for the insurer

      1300biker1300bikerPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Important point.

      kalval58kalval58Prieš 5 mėnesių
    • Fully comprehensive used to mean just that, but now we have all these optional extras.

      Dan MarshDan MarshPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • My insurance company tried to pull the "no passenger insurance " stunt after many years of being with them but had to retract when I pointed out that in the UK such insurance would not comply with the Road Traffic Act which requires cover for liabilities to ALL third parties, including passengers, regardless of whether the vehicle is capable of carrying a passenger. You can't sign that away but if you say you won't carry a passenger and then there is a claim the company will be obliged to pay out but will pursue the policyholder for the sum involved. How much is your house worth?

      Pe VaPe VaPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • For pillion passenger to rider communication, if would be excellent to modified Morse code; tapping on the rider's helmet. I suggest the following: 1 Tap - I forgot to go to the bathroom before we left. 2 Taps - OK, I went to the bathroom, I am ready to go. 3 Taps - I won't need to go to the bathroom for a while. 4 Taps - I might want to go to the bathroom sometime soon. 5 Taps - I want to stop for Tacos. 6 Taps - I wanted to stop for Tacos, but I have now decided I want to stop for sushi instead. ... 71 Taps - I have forgotten how many taps to use to request tacos. 72 Taps - The back of the motorcycle is on fire 73 Taps - I really want to stop for tacos. 74 Taps - The back of the motorcycle is not on fire. 75 Taps - I was incorrect. The back of the motorcycle indeed IS on fire. 76 Taps - Where do you think we will ride next time, and will there be a taco place on that route. What could possibly go wrong????

    MeNo PillionMeNo PillionPrieš 3 val
    • don't really apply where I ride....(plus I hate Tacos)

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš val
  • Great tips. One thing that helped us is to agree on the length of the ride and when you are planning to take a break... the first time I took the Missus on the GS she could hardly get off again as we rode way too long :-) Also... for new passengers a nice way to explain leaning into a curve is that they look over your right shoulder when you right turn, left shoulder for left turn... keep up the amazing vids, love to watch them !

    Dieter FDieter FPrieš 3 dienas
    • Yes great tips Dieter, thanks for that (and for the kind words!).......

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 2 dienas
  • i absolutely cant wait to ride a motorcycle with my bestfriend

    Sweet DeceptionSweet DeceptionPrieš mėn
  • Hi. Got a ninja 400. Bit nervous that it won't be suitable for a pillion passenger. Do you think it will be powerful enough? You mentioned bigger bikes are more suitable.

    Robert ParkinsonRobert ParkinsonPrieš mėn
    • Depends how big the pax is and how far your going....400 not ideal...

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš mėn
  • -After stopping pull away strongly with good acceleration otherwise you can wobble. You might have to let the vehicle in front go ahead further than you normally would before setting off. -Work out a "Stop right now!" signal for the passenger. ....3 thigh squeeze/3 anything works!!! Very useful -ty.

    Landed ZentryLanded ZentryPrieš mėn
    • Great tips!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš mėn
  • Yeah, one more for the intercom. It is great to have a conversation between rider and passenger, especially on longer trips. Lot easier than using "sign language" probably safer too. Doesn't need to be too fancy, cheap enough from ebay if the cost is an important factor. I know tyre pressure check is always important, different load needs different tyre pressure. Worth to bear in mind. Nice summary though.

    Arpad ArpadArpad ArpadPrieš mėn
  • Oh, just a quickie, I don't have a back pad on my top box, does Mrs Flyer recommend one?

    fazer johnfazer johnPrieš mėn
    • @TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the very prompt response.

      fazer johnfazer johnPrieš mėn
    • Yes she does...

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš mėn
  • Great video, I am planning a long tour 2-up for the 1st time and this was very helpful. Thanks.

    fazer johnfazer johnPrieš mėn
  • The thing that always bugs me is when the passenger puts their hands on my shoulders or upper back to feel more secure. Either waste or the passenger grips but not the drivers shoulders.

    Matt CeroMatt CeroPrieš mėn
    • Fair enough....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš mėn
  • Can’t wait to get the missus back out on the bike😀

    Joey GixerboyJoey GixerboyPrieš mėn
  • Great Video TMS.. hit on all the right stuff. Nothing worse than passenger who wiggles, shifts around while you're moving. I tell them set it and forget it until I tap your leg to let you know its ok..

    Trevor-Tree22 BarrettTrevor-Tree22 BarrettPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • If you are breaking hard and the woman on back is going to smash her helmet into yours she should throw her chest out before contact and save the whole situation!

    CRAIG WEYNACRAIG WEYNAPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • I think you are wrong about intercoms. A nice shared experience is a lot better.

    CRAIG WEYNACRAIG WEYNAPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Brilliant help that TMF, thank you both. 👍

    John DrakeJohn DrakePrieš 3 mėnesius
  • Depending on the bike, be careful with your acceleration, I have pulled many accidental wheelies, especially with bikes which have longer suspension travel (i.e. 650 thumpers etc.). Even when accelerating smoothly, you can pop a wheelie which can be dangerous if you have never practiced it before (like I). Thankfully I had some minimal wheelie experience with pushbikes.

    Henrik RónaiHenrik RónaiPrieš 3 mėnesius
  • The belts with handles on that the rider wears are great for pillions in my opinion..Handles on the Hips..Top Tip..Stay Safe..✌🏻

    Rocking RoddersRocking RoddersPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • The belts with handles on that the rider wears are great for pillions in my opinion..Handles on the Hips..Top Tip..Stay Safe..✌🏻

    Rocking RoddersRocking RoddersPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • « Don’t expect to take a lot of luggage »: Just before my 30 year break from biking we went touring on my Suzuki GS850. My wife insisted on bringing her hair dryer, for which I had said there was absolutely no room. It rained nearly every day. Luckily we were able to use the hairdryer for drying everything out after yet another drenching! Seriously, I bought my Versys 1000SE Grand Tourer in August. I love the bike but just haven’t the confidence to take a pillion. Even her getting on and off scares me, and as for uphill starts and low speed manoeuvres... So your video is very helpful but I’m not going to try it just yet.

    Charles McKinstryCharles McKinstryPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • @TheMissendenFlyer Actually, never mind the Versys, I think your missus might be easier to handle than mine 😊

      Charles McKinstryCharles McKinstryPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Yes top heavy bikes are a nightmare I agree - the GW isn't that - I bet it's easier to handle than your Versys....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • I hate it if a pillion does not hang on to me with both hands. I used to ride very hard with the wife on and she didn't slow me down at all. But other people who used the hand holds always felt like a bag of spuds flopping around back there. Biggest problem was her falling asleep on really long trips. I did not notice until I went to overtake and it felt like she was going off the back. Top box on the next bike.?

    Dan OrrDan OrrPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Yes I know what you mean! My Mrs doesn’t like holding on to me for some reason although like you, I prefer that....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Took my wife on 1000 km. Suddenly out of now-where a pothole came and we had a rim bend. Luckily , got it fixed; enjoyed our camping trip and came back on safely. Only regret, i wish i was riding little bit slower.

    amardeep rehalamardeep rehalPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • is there a age restriction for a pillion ? ..( older than a baby , before anyone comments with a silly answer) lol besides pushchair would catch floor on bends hahaha

    OldFartUKOldFartUKPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • I don't believe there is a legal minimum no.....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Is that bmw the 2014 model? Have you had any problems with vibrations in the handlebars or foot pegs?

    J WJ WPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Yes it is and no, no problems with vibrations at all....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Make sure your pillion is a buxom blonde ,i find it helps a lot.

    John BarkerJohn BarkerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Some good advice there! Something you could have mentioned, I haven't tried them myself, but I believe you can buy pillion grippers for pillions like Mrs Flyer to hang on to if they don't want to hold onto the rider.

    Steve GreenSteve GreenPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • As if we weren't jealous enough of the bikes, planes and motors....then we meet Mrs Flyer. Lucky git! Looking lean btw

    J RWJ RWPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Thank you J RW.....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Great stuff guys, thanks. Will show this vid to my wife, who at the moment is very wary of bikes. In fact she thinks we're all mad.

    Simon ThomasSimon ThomasPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Could have sworn I saw a video where you setup a pac talk for you and your pillion?

    James CattanachJames CattanachPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • I certainly have an intercom or two and have showed them on my channel - but I rarely use them due the faff and comfort issues....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • If your pillion does want to reposition themselves better at reasonable speed not at low or high speed. We ride with and without intercom depending on the length and type of the ride. Top box makes it more comfortable for the pillion too.

    Jon PiggottJon PiggottPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Great content! It makes me miss the UK, I lived near you in Chorleywood for a few years.

    Tim STim SPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • @TheMissendenFlyer Columbus, Ohio. Not as scenic as the UK.

      Tim STim SPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Nice! Where are you now Tim?

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Not sure if it's been mentioned, when I take a pillion a tap on the leg means I'm going to overtake so be ready for it 👍🏻

    Carl MargetsonCarl MargetsonPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Good one!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • No hand signals from the pillion aswell 🙈

    Tony HardingTony HardingPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Hi ya no need to tell them just share this video lol Thanks

    Skip AlexanderSkip AlexanderPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Really nice video. I really enjoyed hearing both the rider and pillion perspectives.

    Scott LScott LPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • if its both you and your pillion first time, take a mate who rides on the back first as a bit of practice

    borstalboy24borstalboy24Prieš 4 mėnesius
    • Good idea!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Excellent video. Great chemistry there! :) I have to say I was hoping you'd mention tyre pressure. Do you Increase tyre pressure or maintain the usual values?

    TravelmakerTravelmakerPrieš 4 mėnesius
    • I leave as is but I know some people change it - the manual for the bike should make it clear.....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Very handy video Sir! Lots to take in

    Marco MaMarco MaPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Because I'm a small person, most of my pillions are heavier than me which really ruins the centre of gravity. Scary times lol

    JiggeryJiggeryPrieš 4 mėnesius
  • Please show and explain how the pillion rider gets OFF the moto! That's the first question my wife asked after I showed her how Mrs. Flyer gets on.

    Sam HalgrenSam HalgrenPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Here is a tip for you. Get a girl that weights less than you do.

    Oh wellOh wellPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great video and good advice. I love the headsets on tour with missus. I would find it a bit lonely without that facility as we can chat as we go along and discuss anything interesting.

    David HarringtonDavid HarringtonPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great summary and presentation. The one thing I tell my PAX is to stay close, attached to the rider... especially on bigger bikes there could be quite a gap between rider and a smaller pillion and such disconnect makes the riding pretty unpleasant. So don’t hesitate and ask the pillion to get closer and stay ‚attached‘! Considering there is a already a level of trust between rider and pillion, you as a rider should be comfortable to ask 🤓

    Joern LindstaedtJoern LindstaedtPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Step one should be to set tire pressures on the high side of the acceptable range.

    Kent BristolKent BristolPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Carol u look so comfy on the back of the big GS :)

    Si MotofotoSi MotofotoPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Biggest thing: no surprises! wife learned quickly about getting on and off...once when we were dating, I came by to see her. She was trying to be cute and jump on the back of my Honda shadow with shorts on, only to burn her leg severely with a mark that is still on her leg 8 years later

    Daniel PinedoDaniel PinedoPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • my wife usually hold me by my neck

    Sandeep JhaSandeep JhaPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • When braking don’t grab the riders shoulders or reach around and grab the petrol tank to top yourself from sliding forward. Far better to squeeze your knees on the riders butt. Keeps pressure off the riders wrists, keeps movement free, and keeps your force low.

    Stuart HiattStuart HiattPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Nice one Andy (and Carol). As a passionate biker all my life - but without owning a bike of my own for 40 years, and my last time on a bike WAS indeed with a pillion - my Son Matt as an 8 year old............ Last year however, I re-acquainted myself with my passion on my 1100EX (the day it arrived). Again, this was with Matt on the back - it's just that 27 years have elapsed since our last "Ride", and he's a tight head prop now, and 35 (years - not stone). Can you still buy stabilisers for two wheeled transportation devices ?. Luckily, consumate pro that I am, I soon got my mojo back and we did have a nice ride...... and even as an avid classic car nut - he is now on a KMX125, doing his test prep - so we can ride together on SEPERATE bikes, as you really oughta when it's 2 x 100kg lumps of humanity, unlike you and Mrs Flyer 😊.

    Paul SmythPaul SmythPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Brilliant! Thanks for watching and for stopping by Paul!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Did you mention adjusting tyre pressures? Also Oxford make a belt with handles for a pillion to hold that my wife loves. I also tell my pillion to look over my inside shoulder when cornering as it helps them get in the right position. Your tip on having the pillion get off for turning the bike around is very valid, slow speed stuff is trickier than the high speed stuff with a passenger.

    Robert BurwoodRobert BurwoodPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • The outtakes are very endearing. Some good tips. Any different tips when considering taking a teenage daughter as a passenger? Cheers

    stiefdbstiefdbPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • @TheMissendenFlyer yeah, she's interested for sure but I know she's a bit of a scaredy cat on the inside so I'll have to be extra gentle. Cheers

      stiefdbstiefdbPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Nothing specific - same stuff as in here really, just don't frighten her! (I did mine recently taking her on the back of the wasn't good)....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • batting above your average mate.. :)

    gtr161gtr161Prieš 5 mėnesių
  • What the fuck is two up? Why not just say "with a passenger"? Is two up required to be classified as a cool kid?

    2020 MT-092020 MT-09Prieš 5 mėnesių
  • My better half hated when we hit helmets on my kawasaki versys 650, she now thinks I ride better because we don't hit helmets anymore, nope, I've just got a royal enfield himalayan now that doesn't have the power lol

    Dan WilsonDan WilsonPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • A great video and tips as usual. The GSA with top box and panniers can be quite a challenge to the new pillion getting on and off but once on they do offer additional protection and assurance. A recent dismount ended with my other half landing on her derriere right outside the pub, thank goodness for full face helmets! Now, I put down the side stand and get off while hers truly slides down onto the riders seat and swings her leg over without the top box obstacle! Thanks Mr & Mrs TMF

    Rob GutteridgeRob GutteridgePrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Being very short in the leg, putting my left leg onto the kerb whenever possible, worked for myself and the misses. Used this method for many years until she was unable to travel pillion.

    bikerted1100bikerted1100Prieš 5 mėnesių
    • The kerb also helped me get on the bike :-)

      guzzi sueguzzi suePrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I personally found the quickshifter very helpful with smoothing the ride, but should have upped the suspension preload as the last time carrying a pillion, it had cost me my license plate... Also, on a touring bike or adventure bike the grips might be helpful, but on a more sporty bike (or even nakeds) I prefer hands around the waist. That way, you move as one so the corners and braking are way smoother. Also, when braking you don't have a pillion coming at you with some speed which you need to stop, but you can build pressure on your arms.

    V BV BPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Thank you so much for such an interesting video! Beautiful Mrs Flyer

    Michael YakobashviliMichael YakobashviliPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Well covered ..👍

    Gary ShepherdGary ShepherdPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Thank you!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Hi Ma'am😊

    haf pianohaf pianoPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great video! I love my Sena's so I can talk to my wife or the other riders.

    James ES44AC -2James ES44AC -2Prieš 5 mėnesių
  • Just started taking my 10 year old daughter out on my 1200 Bandit, started with a short trip around the block and stopped halfway round to check she was ok, got back to the house and she wanted to do a longer journey, did 5 miles. Then last weekend did 29 miles with her and she loves it and cant wait to go out again, I've got a pillion belt for her to hold onto, just need to get her to sit still, she wiggles around quite a bit. She even waves at other bikers.

    Gavin BaileyGavin BaileyPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Nice one!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • The main point as a pillion in my opinion is to stay central to the bike on cornering and turns

    plebpunkplebpunkPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Mistery I'm facing is just how much my gf enjoys riding with me even on a hardly supercomfy CBR, hours at a time too. Or rather, how the hell she finds the whole ordeal peaceful enough to fall asleep at 100mph with all the wind and vibrations hahah

    IvorIvorPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I learnt to ride in Switzerland. Here, in the exam, you have to ride with the examiner as pillion, so you learn pretty fast! 😨

    Liz CouplandLiz CouplandPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • @TheMissendenFlyer you have to pass all the slow manoeuvres first, then, if you do, he climbs on and you have to take him for a ride around the Swiss countryside. I also had a motorway stretch thrown in for good measure! As he climbed on my bike, he said, "Please remember, I have 3 children at home". No pressure then!! 🤣 Mind you, it was the best feeling in the world when he told me I had passed. 😁

      Liz CouplandLiz CouplandPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • That is bizarre!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great video, thank you!

    ArmandArmandPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Glad you liked it!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • One thing I always say is like the rider the pillion should not be 'riding under the influence'. Of course they are not 'in control' for the legal aspect or indeed nor is it illegal for them to have been drinking but in my experience its so important they they have their wits about them and also that can and I've seen it induce sleep and a lack of ability to hold on!!!!!!!!!!!! (dare I say anymore).

  • I have been riding on and off for 35 years but never liked taken a pillion, i like to hoon it about a bit and the missus stops me doing that as a pillion. but since watching this i will give it a go since she is always asking me.. although i have an MT07 so might be a bit small for 2 adults...

    WasNotWas999WasNotWas999Prieš 5 mėnesių
  • Follow Me ! Tell me if you gotta go . Don't shift at slow speed or stopped. Traveling/riding in a pack or group don't wave , looks like a signal from behind.

    Mr NegativeMr NegativePrieš 5 mėnesių
  • very comprehensive - you read my notes lol. Our code, in addition, is as we are riding I rub her leg. If she is ok she queezes me with her thighs. Same for her telling me she is ready to go, squeezes me with her thighs, like "giddy up". If I had only one tip - leave your stand down for mount and dismount and make your pillion mount and dismount on that stand side.

    TheSudsyTheSudsyPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Dont know if anyones mentioned it but tyre pressure can be an issue,some bikes need more air and sometimmes not,but worth checking.

    Left BehindLeft BehindPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Yes - many have mentioned it ;0)

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great advise. The only additional thing I asked my wife to do was to take a rider course herself, just so she had some idea of what its like to be the rider and in case she had to move the bike in an emergency. Result was she now has her own bike, which is even better than riding two up!

    Alastair WinnerAlastair WinnerPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Good idea!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Lovely wife tmf punching a bit above your weight. 😁 shame your bikes not as good looking although your part of the world I think they like vintage tractors 😂

    Terry BrooksTerry BrooksPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • This is a great video. I recently purchased a new BMW S1000XR after trading in for my Yamaha Tracer 900GT and my wife is now coming out with me. I do a lot of what you say as a rider and she’s not too bad as a pillion but it’s great to see what Mrs Flyer has to say. Some brilliant points from both rider and Pillion. Cheers

    ThewoodmiesterThewoodmiesterPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Great stuff - glad you found it of interest!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I would add for the passenger, don't wave your arms around, keep them relaxed by your sides with hands ready to grasp the handles if necessary.

    MickthemaverickMickthemaverickPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • After 15 years of biking i still haven't had the nerve to take a pillion, I'm too afraid she may like it 😅 Loving those outtakes at the end.

    M4 BoarM4 BoarPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Well it can be a double edged sword this one!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Very informative thanks 👍

    J NivJ NivPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Glad it was helpful!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Review of the 2020 kawasaki ninja 400

    biker boybiker boyPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Love the comment about the amount of luggage. I did a three week tour of France in the 80s and my other half brought down piles of luggage. I gave her a 35 litre pannier and said , “that’s your lot”. I think she understood the message after we’d loaded the bike up. It weighed a metaphorical ton. And we did have to pick it on the Mulsanne straight.

    zorkzorkPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • A good thing is the topbox! Very nice for the passenger 😁

    Gijs Klein HaarhuisGijs Klein HaarhuisPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I’ve ridden for years with the ball & chain as pillion. As she’s got older, and a tad fatter, she like a pet elephant getting on, the bike wobbles a fair bit, but we manage. Once on, I adjust the suspension, fancy BMW too.

    Stuart HallStuart HallPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Hmmmm have to disagree on the communication bit. This weekend I persuaded the wife to take a 300 mile round trip to see friends (her first time as pillion for years) and we had bluetooth comms. I've used it many times when riding single with a group of mates, but it paid off big time here. I was able to warn her before doing a quick blast past a car, we were able to chit chat, plan coffee/bum easing breaks and it made the boring motorway part of the trip much more tolerable. Personally I think it's much better than taps on the shoulder or shouting over your shoulder at traffic lights. Point being, the wife loved the whole thing, and I know for a fact that bluetooth comms helped that happen. And as it means she is keen to do another trip then that's a win for me :-) Great other tips though TMF. Cheers.

    snowballed4snowballed4Prieš 5 mėnesių
    • Yes I know I'm a bit of a dinosaur on this - I can't be doing with yet another thing to charge, connect, get working, etc...if I wasn't filming for LTworlds I'd probably go for it more often (we do sometimes use them)....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • No communicator for the Mrs ? Why not ? Instead of using hand signals and shouting at each other use it as the excuse to upgrade to the latest Cardo or Sena and put the still working old device on her helmet. She can listen to her music or podcast while you can tell her "hold tight and lean" as you power through corners. For those that don't like hearing the boss chatting....leave her at home next time. :-)

    Tim RoddenTim RoddenPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • One thing I didn’t see in your video or the comments.....when looking at changing your bike, if you carry a pillion regularly as I do, make sure they get to sit on the new bike as well, or even go on your test ride. Just because a bike has a pillion seat and pegs doesn’t mean it will be comfortable for your pillion.

    The Red TownhouseThe Red TownhousePrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Good tip!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I don't often get asked to take someone for a ride but I no longer do it unless the passenger acts like they have a clue. I tell prospective passengers if they really want a ride then get a helmet that fits and appropriate gear before we go anywhere. I'm not paying $200+ just to take you for one damn ride.

    KLRJUNEKLRJUNEPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • V good. Funny and informative. What we all require as we navigate thru this Pandemic. Great bike for two up I imagine. We had an Africa Twin 750 and did many trips from Dublin to Glasgow, London, Rome, Athens. The drawback was exactly what you pointed out - fork dive and underpowered. Looking forward to picking up a GS. Thanks Mr & Mrs Fly!

    Anthony FoxAnthony FoxPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Thanks for watching Anthony!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I agree regarding intercoms, they make it more like being the the car. I personally don't enjoy being or having a pillion, it takes the control away, it changes the dynamics too much. Does Mrs "The Missenden Flyer" want a bike of her own? You sound like Bruce Forsyth, with Carol as your glamorous assistant.

    Wight walker 245Wight walker 245Prieš 5 mėnesių
    • Someone else said it reminded them of Brucey - what a compliment!!! Would I trade Carole for Anthea??? I best not answer....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Thanks TMF, some useful advice there. For the motorbike test in Switzerland the examiner rides pillion on the back of your bike. My test is in a few weeks time so I need to start preparing mentally ..and physically ;-)

    JonesyJonesyPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Really? That’s incredible!!!!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great vid as always, but bike is not heavier.

    peter simmspeter simmsPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Good point!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Hey Mr. Missenden just got news that R.E is trying to introduce a scrambler version of the 650cc gt and interceptor may be at the end of 2020 and a 800cc bobber with the collaboration of Polaris at early 2021( and this is a may be still can't be sure if you ask me). Is there a demand and will they appeal to the UK market?

    viswa srujithviswa srujithPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Oh yes...

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • My wife and I ride all over Europe (or we did). Last 4 years on my 800XCa now traded for the GT Pro. Only rode from Kent to Somerset on that so far. Anyway being in our mid fifties some parts of the body can go a bit numb/dead on a long ride. So I always give my wife a chance to stand up on her pegs and get the circulation going again before dismounting. We learnt this the hard way with her hanging off the bike and me trying to hold the whole lot up!

    Dave SearsDave SearsPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Good and different video , liked the points from rider and pillion points of view. Don’t carry the wife on the back, biking is my escape

    simon robinsonsimon robinsonPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Fair enough!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great advice thank u!first time 2mor as a pinion in almost 20 years.wish me luck!

    Joanna GearJoanna GearPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Best of luck!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I had a mate who would lean against corners when a pillion. Hilarious to watch but a nightmare for the guy at the front.

    Philip LindleyPhilip LindleyPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Thank you Carol for being such a good sport! This was a great video - I plan to share it with my special passenger!

    John WheelerJohn WheelerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • We love our Cardo Freecom 2 cause we chat away together half the time on the bike but we love chatting together in life. We added panniers to the bike last year and that adds another element to getting on and off. My wife actually has to get on first now. We enjoy your work keep it up well done from Aussie Mark and Jo-Ann

    Mark WhiteMark WhitePrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Thank you both and stay safe down there....

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great video. I agree with everything except “don’t expect to carry a lot of luggage”. The wife-to-be and I ride together on tours in Asia. We took a full compliment of camping gear.

    Martin FosterMartin FosterPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • My wife love to ride, and she knows how to ride two up. We don’t use an intercom either. Great video!

    Doug RDoug RPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Thanks 👍

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Well, rather good timing Andy! My better half just went on the back of my bike today. First time. She loved the video and thinks you are both great. There ya go. An instant success. Thanks guys :)

    Craig MayallCraig MayallPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • She loved it. I was amazed!! Thanks guys. Keep the videos coming.

      Craig MayallCraig MayallPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • That's awesome Craig! How did the Mrs get on on the bike??

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • I tell a new pillion to imagine they are my rucksack.....and act like that.

    ThePigvincentThePigvincentPrieš 5 mėnesių
  • Great Video.

    Mr WobbleknockerMr WobbleknockerPrieš 5 mėnesių
    • Thank you!

      TheMissendenFlyerTheMissendenFlyerPrieš 5 mėnesių